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	<title>Comments on: My WestlawNext Upgrade Negotiations: Proof that West Isn&#8217;t Interested in the Solo Market</title>
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		<title>By: My response to rethinc.k series on WestlawNext, WestSearch, and Haters &#124; legalresearchandwritingpro.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>My response to rethinc.k series on WestlawNext, WestSearch, and Haters &#124; legalresearchandwritingpro.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] isn&#8217;t one that even comes close. (Rather than re-post my earlier analyses, I refer you to My WestlawNext Upgrade Negotiations: Proof that West Isn’t Interested in the Solo Market and Westlaw Reps Don’t Know their A$$es From their Elbows When it Comes to WestlawNext Packages [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] isn&#8217;t one that even comes close. (Rather than re-post my earlier analyses, I refer you to My WestlawNext Upgrade Negotiations: Proof that West Isn’t Interested in the Solo Market and Westlaw Reps Don’t Know their A$$es From their Elbows When it Comes to WestlawNext Packages [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall R. Isaacs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall R. Isaacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Lisa, 

Thanks for chiming in at Smallfirmville.  Our contrasting experiences may simply have something to do with our representatives.  Mine have always been transparent and have helped me find ways to save money.   

Also, I think of Westlaw the same way I think about air conditioning in the summer. I&#039;m so thankful to have it that price really isn&#039;t an issue.  

In any case, feel free to call me if you want to compare notes on pricing, plans or representatives.  

Warmest regards,

Marshall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Lisa, </p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in at Smallfirmville.  Our contrasting experiences may simply have something to do with our representatives.  Mine have always been transparent and have helped me find ways to save money.   </p>
<p>Also, I think of Westlaw the same way I think about air conditioning in the summer. I&#8217;m so thankful to have it that price really isn&#8217;t an issue.  </p>
<p>In any case, feel free to call me if you want to compare notes on pricing, plans or representatives.  </p>
<p>Warmest regards,</p>
<p>Marshall</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

Yes, the Pricing Schedule you received should show you two prices, one for out of plan pricing and one for QuickView (or in plan) pricing. If you aren&#039;t sure, just email me and I&#039;ll send you the one I have showing you the charges. The QV pricing for search is pretty low (considering it is all databases), and it is much lower than some of the other numbers thrown around like $50 or $60 per search, which is more in line with the out of plan search charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>Yes, the Pricing Schedule you received should show you two prices, one for out of plan pricing and one for QuickView (or in plan) pricing. If you aren&#8217;t sure, just email me and I&#8217;ll send you the one I have showing you the charges. The QV pricing for search is pretty low (considering it is all databases), and it is much lower than some of the other numbers thrown around like $50 or $60 per search, which is more in line with the out of plan search charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re so right, Jason. Thanks for giving me a whack upside my virtual head!

I was able to take only a quick look at the Subscriber Agreement and Schedule A that I received in the mail last week. Aren&#039;t the Schedule A prices applicable only when you go outside your WestlawNext subscription plan?

Talking about subscription plans, a week ago I asked my Westlaw rep how much my plan components will cost now that their &quot;introductory&quot; pricing has expired. At the end of last week, the rep gave me the pricing for each of the proposals as a whole, but did not provide a plan breakdown, as I had requested. I&#039;m still waiting for further details and will report back once I receive them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re so right, Jason. Thanks for giving me a whack upside my virtual head!</p>
<p>I was able to take only a quick look at the Subscriber Agreement and Schedule A that I received in the mail last week. Aren&#8217;t the Schedule A prices applicable only when you go outside your WestlawNext subscription plan?</p>
<p>Talking about subscription plans, a week ago I asked my Westlaw rep how much my plan components will cost now that their &#8220;introductory&#8221; pricing has expired. At the end of last week, the rep gave me the pricing for each of the proposals as a whole, but did not provide a plan breakdown, as I had requested. I&#8217;m still waiting for further details and will report back once I receive them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

I&#039;m afraid you&#039;ve been baited. I suggest you not approve anymore of &quot;Steven B&#039;s&quot; comments as he is simply a troll, something that Jaron Lanier has warned us about in &quot;You Are Not a Gadget.&quot; The more you allow Mr. B to pollute the comments, the less effective this post becomes, regardless of your desire to engage him or her. He/She is not adding anything to the debate on whether WestlawNext is appropriately priced given the fact that there is no market to determine MSRP. We all understand what we are dealing with, and I think the latest Pricing Schedule released by Thomson Reuters makes the pricing (and it&#039;s effects) painfully clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ve been baited. I suggest you not approve anymore of &#8220;Steven B&#8217;s&#8221; comments as he is simply a troll, something that Jaron Lanier has warned us about in &#8220;You Are Not a Gadget.&#8221; The more you allow Mr. B to pollute the comments, the less effective this post becomes, regardless of your desire to engage him or her. He/She is not adding anything to the debate on whether WestlawNext is appropriately priced given the fact that there is no market to determine MSRP. We all understand what we are dealing with, and I think the latest Pricing Schedule released by Thomson Reuters makes the pricing (and it&#8217;s effects) painfully clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now your firm delivery of the fact that the 45% discount is &quot;standard&quot;, now turns to &quot;semantics&quot;. I am sure your readers can determine themselves that you have no idea what you are talking about. 

Please keep up the good work and continue to offer your ever so informative insights. You have obviously done your homework, and any intellegent attorney can truly benefit from your experiences. 

FYI - Your likening Westlaw to buying a car with an MSRP couldn&#039;t be more rediculous. And as far as it being a &quot;web product and should be bought on the web&quot; is even more rediculous. Most of the comments here are so far off, that one has to wonder where their degrees are from. Mail order? It seems a law degree should be able to be purchased on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now your firm delivery of the fact that the 45% discount is &#8220;standard&#8221;, now turns to &#8220;semantics&#8221;. I am sure your readers can determine themselves that you have no idea what you are talking about. </p>
<p>Please keep up the good work and continue to offer your ever so informative insights. You have obviously done your homework, and any intellegent attorney can truly benefit from your experiences. </p>
<p>FYI &#8211; Your likening Westlaw to buying a car with an MSRP couldn&#8217;t be more rediculous. And as far as it being a &#8220;web product and should be bought on the web&#8221; is even more rediculous. Most of the comments here are so far off, that one has to wonder where their degrees are from. Mail order? It seems a law degree should be able to be purchased on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Solomon</title>
		<link>http://legalresearchandwritingpro.com/blog/2010/02/10/my-westlawnext-upgrade-negotiations-proof-that-west-isnt-interested-in-the-solo-market/comment-page-1/#comment-101304</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, it would be much easier to have a reasonable discussion with you if you let us all know who you really are.  Without that information, I (and the rest of my readers) will have to take your defense of West with quite a large grain of salt.

Moreover, calling the 45% off that West regularly offers off the price of a one-year contract to those willing to sign up for three years is mere semantics. Perhaps a more accurate term would be &quot;volume discount.&quot; Plenty of businesses give standard volume discounts to entice customers to buy more or sign longer contracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, it would be much easier to have a reasonable discussion with you if you let us all know who you really are.  Without that information, I (and the rest of my readers) will have to take your defense of West with quite a large grain of salt.</p>
<p>Moreover, calling the 45% off that West regularly offers off the price of a one-year contract to those willing to sign up for three years is mere semantics. Perhaps a more accurate term would be &#8220;volume discount.&#8221; Plenty of businesses give standard volume discounts to entice customers to buy more or sign longer contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lisa. Since you were so gracious to point at that the 45% discount is &quot;standard&quot;, let me assure you that it is absolutely not, and further explains your lack of a grasp on the situation. If the discount was &quot;standard&quot;, then why wouldn&#039;t the price be just that (the discounted amount)? Apparently, your rep is trying to help you with the lowest price possible, but some people are never happy. There are far more things in life to complain about, without trashing the best legal research provider on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lisa. Since you were so gracious to point at that the 45% discount is &#8220;standard&#8221;, let me assure you that it is absolutely not, and further explains your lack of a grasp on the situation. If the discount was &#8220;standard&#8221;, then why wouldn&#8217;t the price be just that (the discounted amount)? Apparently, your rep is trying to help you with the lowest price possible, but some people are never happy. There are far more things in life to complain about, without trashing the best legal research provider on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Solomon</title>
		<link>http://legalresearchandwritingpro.com/blog/2010/02/10/my-westlawnext-upgrade-negotiations-proof-that-west-isnt-interested-in-the-solo-market/comment-page-1/#comment-101301</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually, I wouldn&#039;t bother responding to comments left by anonymous trolls like &quot;Steven&quot; and &quot;Dee.&quot; 

I&#039;m writing to point out that the &quot;45% discount!!!!!&quot; that Steven seems so happy about is actually the standard discount extended to anyone who signs a three-year contract (as opposed to a  one-year contract).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually, I wouldn&#8217;t bother responding to comments left by anonymous trolls like &#8220;Steven&#8221; and &#8220;Dee.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing to point out that the &#8220;45% discount!!!!!&#8221; that Steven seems so happy about is actually the standard discount extended to anyone who signs a three-year contract (as opposed to a  one-year contract).</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Dublewe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee Dublewe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven B - Thank you for sending the wake up call to the children. Go use the free stuff and increase your malpractice insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven B &#8211; Thank you for sending the wake up call to the children. Go use the free stuff and increase your malpractice insurance.</p>
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